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June 12, 2008

JOHN MCCAIN’S ROLE IN THE USS FORRESTAL FIRE THAT LEFT 168 DEAD

Filed under: BARACK OBAMA, Bush, hillary clinton, John McCain, life, mideast, news, politics, war — gasdocpol @ 1:02 pm

Posted By: RayelansMailbag
Date: Wednesday, 27 February 2008, 11:01 p.m. “Now You Will Know The Rest Of The Story”

If This Doesn’t Make Your Blood Boil You Are Not A True American!!!

McCain crashed 5 jets, plus he was responsible for the horrible USS Forrestal fire In 1967.

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately ‘wet-started’ his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4.

‘Wet-starts’, done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. In McCain’s case, the ‘wet-start’ ‘cooked off’ and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fuel tank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb. bomb off it’s 500 lb. rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration, along with 167 of his fellow Forrestal shipmates (including those who died later from wounds suffered).

‘Wet starting’ was a common practice among young ‘hot-dog’ pilots. McCain was quickly (they were still counting the Forrestal dead) transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred).

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6 Comments »

  1. OK. First off let me say I am a former sailor who spent extensive time on a carrier.

    The fire aboard the Forrestal is used extensively as a training video in the Navy. If you watch that video, you will plainly see that the conflagration (sorry for y’all that only understand up to 2 syllables) began on the deck on the opposite side of the ship from John McCain’s plane. McCain is the pilot seen climbing from his aircraft, diving and rolling thru the burning fuel. He was evacuated, with many others, for medical reasons, and still came back to fight another day.

    Please, PLEASE, get your facts straight before opening your mouths.

    BTW, I do not supoort McCain for President.

    Comment by Tim — July 1, 2008 @ 4:37 pm

  2. Tim,

    Thank you for the information. I will try to confirm what you say. The story seemed to be credible enough because it fit into McCain’s pattern of behavior since high school and indeed since then. His weekends at Annapolis were described as trainwrecks. He lost 3 US warplanes in accidents prior to the USS Forrestal Fire. His war hero status is open to question. As a Senator he is known to be a compulsive gambler, superstitious and has an anger management problem.

    As much of a metaphore as it is for what John McCain is about, from what you say, it did not happen and it should not be repeated. If I am able to confirm what you say, I will acknowledge it in other blogs that I have posted.

    Meanwhile, there are no lack of reasons why I feel that John McCain would be a disaster as President.I would not want to confuse the issues by stating something that I know not to be true.

    BTW No need to apologize for using big words. My vocabulary is quite adaquate especially in nautical, business and medical terms)

    Thanks again.

    Comment by gasdocpol — July 1, 2008 @ 5:08 pm

  3. Is this site just for making up facts? Read the true story or just keep telling lies. I am beginning to re-think my choice in the election. I don’t think that I want to continue to support a candidate of change, and lies if you idiots are working for him.

    Comment by Willam Studa — July 5, 2008 @ 6:57 pm

  4. William Studa,

    It now appears that the story about McCains alleged “wet start” is probably not true, however it might fit into the pattern of his lifelong behavior and however much it might be a metophore for the way he has always operated. Disaster seemed to follow him from his raunchy partying at the Naval Academy and “trainwreck weekends” in Annapolis to at least 3 wrecked US Navy planes and, profanity-laden outbursts in the Senate, superstions, anger management problems and compulsive gambling.

    In the case of the Forrestal disaster, McCain was likely at the wrong place aq the wrong time.

    I RETRACT MY SUGGESTION THAT McCAIN DID A WET START. I WISH THAT PEOPLE WOULD STOP SUGGESTIN THAT OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, READY TO TURN THE USA OVER TO AL QAEDA.

    I ALSO WISH THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO INSIST THAT McCAIN IS QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT BASED ON HIS MILITARY EXPERIENCE, THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS, HOW HIS MILITARY EXPERIENCE WOULD TRANSLATE TO THE OVAL OFFICE AND NOT JUST INSIST THAT EVERONE SHOULD TAKE THAT AS A GIVEN.

    Comment by gasdocpol — July 5, 2008 @ 9:16 pm

  5. I wish you liberal cry babies would put HALF as much time into digging up Obama’s past as you do with making up McCain’s past. The Muslim thing IS very credible. He came from Muslim parents, had a Muslim step dad and siblings. Almost everyone on his dad’s side is. He went to a Muslim school in Indonesia. Then when he become’s “Christian” it is a church that damns us all the same as the extremists we are fighting. Extremists, when will we hear more about William Ayers and Obama?

    I think that is every bit and then some more credible, than you calling McCain a reckless, tempersome, drunk with a gambling addiction who is unqualified. I never voted for a Republican in my life (29 years old). But after Obama was nominated, and hearing what he says, I re-examined myself and my views. I’ll tell you what Obama can “change”, my mind as well as several other peoples’. And the Democrats, I “hope” are happy about losing so many people. ‘Yes they did’!

    Comment by Eric Kanzenbach — September 10, 2008 @ 4:01 pm

  6. Eric Kanzenbach.

    Are you trying to say that Barack Obama is a mole under deep cover who would turn over the USA the day he becomes President?

    If you are looking for conspiracies, try this one. The only people who benefitted from 9/11 were GW Bush and the Neocons who actually were on record via PNAC as of August 2000 wanting 9/11 to happen. PNAC members Cheney and Rumsfeld were in a position to tamper with our defenses for over 8 months prior to 9/11. They push the invasion ,lying as necessary.

    The only people who benefitted from the Iraq invasion were Iran and Al Qaeda.

    It is well documented that McCain:
    1. McCain does not do his homework on issues today any more than when he was at the bottom of his class at USNA.
    2. Has multipl,e superstitions
    3. is a compulsive gambler spending upwards of 14 hours at craps tables betting thousands per roll.
    4. has anger management problem

    His top foreign affairs advisor Scheunemann got rich by pushing the Iraq war ande now is stirring up trouble with Russia.

    Top economic guru Gramm can be blamed for following messes : S&L, ENRON,sub-prime morgage, oil futures trading.

    He falsely accused Obama for callin g palin a pig. M cCain made cruel, trastless joke to affend Hillary, Chelsea and Janet Renao at a fujndraiser.

    I have voted for as many Republicans as Democrats starting with Nixon agaist Kennedy in 1960. I am not a Liberal.

    Comment by gasdocpol — September 10, 2008 @ 4:21 pm


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