Liberalscum Buster

June 10, 2008


Filed under: BARACK OBAMA, Bush, hillary clinton, John McCain, life, mideast, news, politics, war — gasdocpol @ 12:55 pm

As much it might be a metaphor for McCain’s general behavior the rumor that McCain wet started his plane on the US Forrestal is probably not true.

I will also submit that based on his 20 hours in combat on 23 combat missions, it is also questionable that he be considered a war hero.

(A wet start is caused by allowing the jet engine to fill with kerosene before hitting the starter, causing a huge flame from the exhaust to spook the pilot behind him.) The flame cooked off and launched a M34 Zuni rocket into the plane of the hot dog hot shot. *

The flyboy son of a 4 star admiral was quickly transfered to the USS Oriskany .

* Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately ‘wet-started’ his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4. ‘Wet-starts’, done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. In McCain’s case, the ‘wet-start’ ‘cooked off’ and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it’s 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration, along with 167 of his fellow Forrestal shipmates (including those who died later from wounds suffered). ‘Wet starting’ was a common practice among young ‘hot-dog’ pilots. McCain was quickly (they were still counting the Forrestal dead) transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred).



  1. If you bothered to watch the complete set of 5 videos of the fore and the investigation you would see clearly that even if McCain had done a wet start, his A4 was clearly facing the phantom so the flame from McCain’s A4 would have gone out to sea. The investigation also shows that another pilot had a short that caused the Zuni’s from HIS plane to fire, not McCain’s plane. This is part 1 of 5 you can find the other 4 parts by searching for the VibraciaX

    Comment by Al — July 20, 2008 @ 9:10 pm

  2. This story had credibility because it was part of a pattern of behavior by John McCain since he was in high school where he was known as Punk McNasty.

    I wonder why crew members would make up such a story. I wonder why he was tranfered to the Oriskany so quickly.

    As much of a metaphor for the way McCain has gone through life, maybe the accident was not McCain’s fault. I have retracted the statement where I have posted it elsewhere. I have also posted a generic retraction even though I am not sure that it is untrue.

    There are certainly plenty of reasons why McCain would be a disaster as President and I have stopped citing this incident. I only wish that people telling untruths about Obama would do the same and stop saying things thjat are not true.

    Comment by gasdocpol — July 20, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

  3. If you anyone believes this movie version of what happened you are an ffffing idiot. Why don’t they show the real film?…..COVER UP!…..

    Comment by joesixpack — October 3, 2008 @ 11:43 pm

  4. Speaking of films, Maverick McCain reminds me of Maverick Tom Cruise in Top Gun who jumps up and down on Oprah’s couch in real life.

    Comment by gasdocpol — October 4, 2008 @ 12:09 am

  5. This assertion that John McCain’s “wet start” caused the ensuing disaster on the USS Forestall is beyond ridiculous but for arguments sake, lets say he did a fire off a “wet start”. The film of the disaster clearly shows all the A-4s with their tails pointed out to sea on the port side of the deck. If he had done a “wet start” the fireball from it would have blown out to sea as there was no plane directly in back of him. Also the F-4 in question was on the starboard side of the ship along with all the other F-4s. Am I correct in assuming that you believe the wet start fireball went out to sea, circled back around the stern of the ship to the starboard side and still had enough heat to cook off a Zuni missile on an F-4? If you truly believe in this scenario, my question to you would be when was your last Elvis sighting?

    Comment by Apples — October 22, 2008 @ 9:16 pm

  6. I will correct the post. aqpparently what you say is correct.

    Comment by gasdocpol — October 22, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

  7. I will correct the post. apparently what you say is correct.

    Comment by gasdocpol — October 22, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

  8. gasdocpol,
    Thank you for your objectivity and prompt response.

    Comment by Apples — October 22, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

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