Liberalscum Buster

July 5, 2008

HOW DARE WESLEY CLARK QUESTION McCAINS MILITARY RECORD AS RELEVANT TO BEING PRESIDENT ?

Filed under: BARACK OBAMA, Bush, hillary clinton, John McCain, life, mideast, news, politics, war — gasdocpol @ 9:31 pm

Lets compare McCain and Clark from the point of view of war heroism.

Clark
Only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.

McCain flew 23 unheroic combat missions over Vietnam. He was a POW for 5 1/2 years.

Education
Clark was Valedictorian at West Point. McCain was 895 out of a class of 899 at Annapolis.

Clark was a Rhodes Scholar and was awarded a Masters Degree in Philosphy, Psychology and Economics from Oxford.
Clark was awarded a Master’s in Military Science from the Command and General Staff War College.

McCain attended the Navy War College but apparently took up space because he did not receive any degree.

CLARK WAS A GENERAL FOR 10 YEARS.

BASED ON GENERAL WESLEY CLARK’S ACADEMIC, ADMINISTRATIVE AND BATTLEFIELD RECORD AND THE VALIDITY OF THE QUESTION ,I FIND IT UNBELIEVEABLE THAT ANYONE CRITICIZING CLARK IS GIVEN ANY CREDIILITY AT ALL.

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5 Comments »

  1. Doc:

    Why is it that perfectly intelligent people suddenly turn stupid when they support Obama? Not everyone of course, but how else do you explain Clark?

    So you know up front, I am a big fan of Wes Clark and thought he would have made a fine president when he first ran and equally great VP for Hillary.

    What I am NOT a fan of is anyone treating a man or woman’s military record as a political chip to be played at will. I hated what the Republicans did to Max Cleland in Georgia, was equally angry at the attacks Wes Clark had to endure, and I feel the same about McCain. We shouldn’t be playing games like “my guy’s a bigger, better, badder, war hero than yours!”

    Maybe this is something we can agree on. If a person is willing to lay down his/her life for our country it is shameful for anyone to attack that record for political gain. It is so unseemly! Doc, you’re better than that!

    Comment by sportsone234 — July 5, 2008 @ 11:53 pm

  2. Sportsone

    In the minds of many, if not all those who support McCain, it is his war record that qualifies him for the Presidency. Does that mean anyone who ” is willing to lay down his life for his country” in Vietnam is qualified to be President? I have two brothers who served in Vietnam. Does that make both of them qualified to be President? How about all those who came back so dysfunctional that they were among the homeless (like the fictional “Rambo). Are they all potential Presidents?

    Is military service the “Sine qua non” of being the commander-in-chief?

    Starting with the War of 1812 none of our Presidents had military experience in winning wars except GHW Bush (The Elder) in Desert Storm. Kennedy, Nixon and Johnson had military background prior to dealing with Vietnam (a loss). Eisenhauer and Truman had military experience before they dealt with Korea (a draw). Only Eisenhauer had significant military background. (Maybe Truman and Nixon to a lesser extent)

    McCain has gotten a free pass.

    Clark made a point of throwing bouquets of flowers to McCain citing him as a war hero. Not only is being a “war hero” not very relevant to being commander-in-chief, I suggest that it may not even be very true in McCain’s case.

    BTW McCain has made a whole career in the Senate by playing the chip of his military record and now he is playing that chip in his campaign for the Presidency.

    Comment by gasdocpol — July 6, 2008 @ 11:54 am

  3. unfortunately he is like most of the generals/admirals in the military today…
    big mouth little action..

    half of the top brass have mba(s) from harvard, but can’t organize a one car parade…

    asscrawling seems to be the ticket..so Gen. W. Clark with all his background and learning is still
    nothing but a brown nose looking for his next promotion..

    mms

    Comment by mark simons — July 6, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

  4. I do not question McCain or Clark’s military service!
    However that does not make his opinion any more valid than mine!
    He is just one more retired soldier no longer in the loop or the know about military intelligence reports or ongoing military operation beyond that he hears from active duty friends and sees on TV.
    Just for the record I was there and awarded the ARCOM with V device for Heroism during the 1969 Tet offensive.

    Comment by pobept — July 6, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

  5. mark simons

    I wonder upon what, you are basing that cynical assessment of Admirals and Generals.

    I will admit that they were not McCain’s 4- star admiral father’s finest moments when he intervened to get his wayward son into and through the Naval Academy and flight school etc.

    Generally speaking, for a career Naval officer to stay in the Navy (unless they happen to be the son of a 4-star admiral), he (she) must receive OUTSTANDING fitness reports (Good or Excellent are the kiss of death.
    One does not get to be an admiral or general by being the kind of dolt you suggest.

    (Before I went to medical school, I was a commissioned line officer in the Navy and I know something about how it works.)

    pobebt

    I suspect that you deserve your medal more than McCain deserves his, unless, of course, you have a father who is a 4-star general or you have an awesome line of BS.

    Being out of the loop has nothing to do with Clarks assessment, having served at all levels in the Army up to 4-star General, that the level of responsibilty McCain had in the Navy does not give him insight into the set of decisions he would have to make as commander-in-chief.

    Comment by gasdocpol — July 6, 2008 @ 5:06 pm


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